Thinking Too Hard: Panties Twisted- Bloggers, Authors & Bullies (Part 2)

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You know what I’m soooo TIRED of???? Besides bloggers acting like we’re still in high school that is

Authors and “bloggers” on their high horse about bloggers being BULLIES. Are you FREAKING JOKING ME????

Perhaps no one has noticed that EVERY TIME something goes down between an author and a blogger, it’s because an author doesn’t like the bloggers opinion about their book.

Now, I don’t condone some of the reviews I’ve seen of some blogs. For me – it’s one thing to DISLIKE a book, even HATE a book… but I don’t think it’s very considerate to personally address an author in a review…  but that’s MY opinion. And seriously, ANYONE who knows me- knows that I’ll straight up tell you or anyone who asks,

“Dude, *insert title of horrific book* fucking SUCKED.”

IF I’m having a private conversation with a FRIEND. But no, I do not personally post book reviews that way. I’m not an editor, I’m not a college English professor- so what do I know? All I can say is whether or not I was told a good story. Period.

Have I wanted to post reviews RIPPING books up and down and all over? You can bet your ass I have. Do Icatch crap for NOT posting 75% negative or below 3 star reviews? YES. I’ve been called out on Amazon so many times that I’ve lost count.

But as I’ve stated several times in the past, I try to keep my blog a positive place. So you know when you come on to The Bookish Brunette, you’re really only going to hear about GOOD BOOKS. Now that being said, I do not  fault OTHER reviewers for posting negative reviews. No… but after ALL of this crap, I’m so tempted to go back on my “positive” take on the review system- and review with no holds barred. ← Is that the saying? *shrugs*

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Now there’s this JOKE of a ridiculous, absolutely hypocritical ‘site’ called Stop the GR Bullies who LITERALLY lists PERSONAL INFORMATION about book bloggers/reviewers because the “people” (and I use the term “people” LIGHTLY) behind this StGRB site deem these bloggers to be “bad reviewers”…

Oh…

So you mean you don’t like them to post their HONEST opinion of a book they hated? Wow. *cough* Hitler anyone? What is this shit???? You have GOT to be kidding me?

Here is my MAIN problem- How dare they have the audacity to criticize ANYONE for BULLYING when they turn around and post word vomit like THAT? It physically sickens me to the point of NO EFFING return.

You know what I have to say to this absurdly hypocritical travesty of a monstrous blog mistake called “Stop the GR Bullies“?

 

FUCK YOU.

 

How about you grow a pair, put your big girl panties on and learn to take it like a fucking grown up?

 

In other words:

MAN the fuck up dude. 

Just the other day, one of my fav chicks Andrea (who by the way- is one of the SWEETEST chicks freaking EVER) posted a very cordial review of a book and stated in a VERY professional way WHAT she wasn’t digging about that book. The author called her a douche.

What. The. FUCK?

No. I’m DONE. That is UNACCEPTABLE. And BLOGGERS are the “bad guys” here? How about if some of these authors behaved with ONE ounce of freaking class, BLOGGERS wouldn’t be all up in arms about everything.

ALSO anyone who knows me- KNOWS that I’m a huge supporter of indie authors, it seems no matter who you support or what you do, people WILL call you out and act like children.

I have ALWAYS tried to stay out of the “drama”… but it has literally gone JUST too far these last few months. Authors against bloggers, bloggers against authors. Guess what? I DO THIS, because I love BOOKS. Not the authors attached to them. And you know what ELSE? I can BUY my OWN damn books. It’s never been about getting “free books” for me, it’s about promoting and featuring the books I love. When I started book blogging, I had NO idea that I would also meet so many WONDERFUL authors…

Honestly, I can give you a list right now of authors who have made my book blogging experience a POSITIVE one. And I love every one of them.

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And then there are authors who post things like this:


3. I don’t want a deserving teenager—even one who is underprivileged, owns no other books, and who devotedly helped with his library’s collection development—to be given my ARC as a gift.

(via Elizabeth Fama’s blog post on 7/9)

Hey… No problem chick… I’ll NEVER own a copy of your book to hand off. I’ll NEVER recommend you to ANYONE and you can be SURE that this will be the LAST time you are EVER mentioned here on The Bookish Brunette.

Nope, I’m not ‘bullying’ for refusing to read or promote her book because she is SO completely heartless that she would DENY a CHILD with no other books access to her book because of a few words? Does she even realize that someone in a situation like that may TREASURE every SINGLE solitary word in that book? Good or bad?

Selfish. To quote my father, “THINK before you speak.”

I’m so riled up, that I better stop now before I REALLY get going…

Anyone have anything to add? Thoughts or feelings about this topic? Authors are MORE than welcome to join in.

 

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76 Responses to Thinking Too Hard: Panties Twisted- Bloggers, Authors & Bullies (Part 2)

  1. I just fucking DIED. Literally. This has to be the best thing that has made TOTAL FREAKING SENSE to me in awhile! Well, besides the Part 1 post. Seriously dude. Aren’t these books passed our way for HONEST reviews? Yet when we give them honesty, they flipped the hell out. No shit, my FIVE YEAR OLD takes criticism better than some of these people… Do I post DNF reviews? I didn’t before, but I have been lately. I used to not post anything under a 3. Why? I didn’t exactly know HOW to write the review without feeling like I WAS bashing the author, even though I wasn’t trying to. Now that I have learned the difference, you’re damn right I write them. Why? Simple. I read the book. I want to share my opinion. Is it the opinion YOU feel we should have about your book? Well, probably not, but I’m gonna give it anyways. Why? BECAUSE I FREAKING CAN. – You can scream, yell, break shit and have a hissy fit all you want to, but I can assure you, all the name calling – blah blah, what the hell ever it is that they do – ISN’T going to make me take the review down. So really, where has all this gotten people? Nowhere. It’s just a big ass waste of breath.

    oh. & I HEART your freaking face!!

    • See I’ll POST them if I have the time or energy… But I usually don’t much feel like it. And I may write a review on WHY I DNF’d a book, but I won’t “star rate” it, bc I feel like that’s not fair… Like what if AFTER I gave up, the book TOTALLY rocked?

      You know?

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  3. I love honest reviews on my books. There’s no other way to learn than to have someone else – especially someone you don’t know with extensive experience reading other books in similar genres – tell you what was good and what was bad. I actually had a DNF on Goodreads for a past book and I want to send her a different book of mine that I think she would actually like because it fits more with the genres she seems to prefer. I learn. I grow. That’s the funnest part of writing. And you know what? I couldn’t do the writing, the learning, or the growing without honest people who tell me how I’m doing. I don’t need my ass handed to me on a butcher block, but I love being told how to do better the next time.
    If there’s a teenager out there (only saying teenager cause my books aren’t appropriate for ages under 14) that needs a book, I’d hand them mine and a few dozen of my friends’ books that they might like.
    It’s so sad to see so many people fighting over words, when really? Isn’t the point of reviewers/bloggers to get your book read? Just read! For every person that reads my book, I feel like I found a friend. Even if they didn’t like my book, they saw a piece of me.
    Bloggers and reviewers work their butts off to take the time to even rate and review books – let alone read them. Why the heck don’t people see that?
    OKay, off my pulpit. Great point, again. Love this site. And how awesome is it that your post is all color coordinated? Hugs!

    • Most authors say they like honest reviews… And I totally appreciate that! But I also know some authors who say they do not read reviews of their book AT ALL… because once its written it’s not like you can go back and change it right? I totally see both sides!

  4. Jess @ Taking it One Book says:

    Fucking awesome! I read Andrea’s review and the author’s response was COMPLETELY uncalled for! I could rant on this high vibe floating around the blog-o-sphere for daaaaaayyyyyysssssss, but I’ve got better shit to do, like rea. Well said chica <3 you!

  5. Oh. My. God.
    I knew I was right to fear what part two would reveal, and you know what? I’m fucking sick. I canNOT believe some of the PURE shit I just read that asinine people have the balls to utter (er…type) out loud. Especially that one quote about the deserving teenager and the ARC. I mean holy fucking shit! Who are these people?! I swear, Jesus himself would probably slap the ever loving shit out of someone for such a holier than thou attitude and remark like that. Then he’d hand ‘em a free copy of HIS best seller and tell ‘em they should probably study up before they clock out in this life.
    And another thing, I’ve been thinking about sitting down and writing a blog post explaining my feelings on book bloggers and why they deserve every author’s respect regardless of whether they liked a book or not, and this settles it, I’m doing it. Look for it some time tomorrow.
    Read, review, blog, and most importantly, ROCK ON, Ashley!!

    • Dude. BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

      See, I went to Catholic school for ten years… So in light of that- I’m not very “religious” these days! ;) but… This:

      ” Jesus himself would probably slap the ever loving shit out of someone for such a holier than thou attitude and remark like that. Then he’d hand ‘em a free copy of HIS best seller and tell ‘em they should probably study up before they clock out in this life. ”

      Was the most EPIC thing I’ve ever heard in my entire freaking life! No freaking joke! I completely agree.. I just think that was probably the most heartless comment I’ve ever had the displeasure of reading!

  6. Debra Anastasia says:

    I’m huge believer in women speaking their minds. I think as writers we have a responsibility to encourage others to put their thoughts into words. Even if it’s an option we don’t agree with.

  7. Disgusting. It’s also creepy as fuck that that one site is stalking reviewers and posting private info. That’s some boarder line Fatal Attraction shit. Better watch out for the rabbit stew..

    • Alexia says:

      Dude! EPIC! You are on a serious roll here with your rants! BOOYAH! How many parts are there to Panties Twisted? I have absolutely no words! You really really hit the nail on the head with these posts! WOW! Friggin’ wow!

  8. Oh you mean when my boss criticizes something I do at work, I can go all crazy-arse and post about it all over the internet, start a website about it and then get all my ‘friends’ to join me in stalking him relentlessly until he resigns and everyone goes back to loving everything I do? Yeah, I’d be fired.

    And that’s what these so-called ‘professionals’ are missing here – the whole definition of ‘professional’. No one is ever going to love everything – whether its a book, a blog, a presentation at work or the way we dress – just deal with it! And if you can’t deal with criticism as an author, then maybe it’s time to think about whether this gig is really for you.

    Cliche time – if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all. End.

    • YES!!!

      That’s a perfect freaking analogy too dude! It’s insane and SICKENING. Seriously.

    • Todd Brown says:

      I actually try to learn from the constructive negative reviews. Kat gave me a well thought out 2 star on one of my titles recently (Zomblog) and I accepted her critique as well as agreeing with some of her points. Then I offered up the second book in that same series because I believe it addresses some of her critiques. If you can’t handle the fact that not everybody will think gold drips from your pen…STOP WRITING.

  9. Another briilliant, fantastic (etc, etc)post! You’ve done an awesome job of conveying what a lot of bloggers are feeling right now.

    And thanks for the shoutout. I (naively) thought that if I was honest and kind, I would always get the same in return. I truly wasn’t “hurt” by being called a douche, but I was pissed. In the end, she totally ruined her own rep. And that’s good enough for me.

    I completely agree w/your view of Elizabeth Fama’s post. I couldn’t believe what I was reading.I don’t jnks wtf she was thinking writing that (sales?) but that was ridiculous.

    You rock!

    • Oh right? I think Fama completely messed up, and the sad part is that I somewhat UNDERSTOOD (at least) some of what I THINK she meant… Until she went there with the underprivileged kids.

      Had she said, “I hate my ARC.” and left it at that, hell I’d have wanted to read the ARC and the finished copy just to see what the big ordeal was! Now I’ll never read a word written by that woman.

      And I knew you were hurt so much as super mad! Lol I’d have been hotter than a fire cracker on the forth of July dude. You were SO nice in that review!

  10. Barbara says:

    Elizabeth Fama edited her post (you can get the gist of her unedited version by the comments) – I get why publishers don’t want you to sell ARCs or quote from them but what she said just blew my mind. One of the commenters said she sent her ARCs to her poor family overseas who didn’t have access to books at all and Fama said she still didn’t think that was acceptable. I’ll never read or feature Fama’s books either. Shitlist, party of one. Or several, but she’s on it.

    I don’t even know where to begin with that Goodreads garbage. I’ll just nod along to what you said. What the hell is going on? I really hate that this kind of crap can’t get shut down, that it doesn’t violate any of WordPress’ terms since it doesn’t endanger children or some such bullshit. You know, since stalking and veiled threats don’t mean anything. Disgusting.

  11. Felicia says:

    Readers have talked about books both positive and negative since the beginning of the written word. It is what makes reading so fun :) It is also the reason I have for the most part quit interacting with authors so that I don’t feel “obligated” to like their books. I am friends with some authors but on a whole I just like to fan girl all over them and then go back to reading with other readers!

    I mean I doubt very much Karl Urban cares that I am worried Judge Dredd is going to suck even though he is totally in my “five”! I can’t imagine that he trolls the internet, sets up anonymous sites to rail against those who may not have loved him as a Cowboy Vampire, and then calls them out.

    I am just trying to put perspective that authors like movie stars, musicians just need to do their best and then let their work out to the world for the consumer to discuss and digest.

    That being said, I have seen (none of the ones called out on that site) some people get personal about authors in their reviews (aka I didn’t like the book because the author said that she has a pink unicorn instead of a purple one –just going for an off the wall example so it can’t be tied back) and that is uncalled for too. Also the 1 star ratings because of price are just plain stupid but that is my personal opinion. If you don’t read it or buy it then don’t rate it!

  12. Thank you for saying this! I LOVE YOUR FACE!

  13. Ashley I friggin love your face!! You said this perfectly!! I can’t believe the behavior of some people lately. I agree that I have seen some reviews that are rude, but like you stated, most are just honest and professional. I mean really, not everyone will like every book. If you are an author you need to be able to accept the good and the bad. Yeah it’s going to suck to read a negative review, but keep your thoughts to yourself or vent to a friend. Don’t insult people on the internet for everyone to see. I tend to avoid drama like the plague, but it has gotten so ridiculous lately. Normally I wouldn’t even comment about it, but when Andrea was called a douche I couldn’t help but comment about how uncalled for that was and that I can’t support authors who think that it’s okay to behave like that.

  14. Love your face, chick. I wrote about all this crap today on my blog, too. Since I’m an author, I’ve been watching all of this with a great sense of horror.

    You can read my thoughts here: http://rhiannonfrater.blogspot.com/2012/07/internet-has-exploded-again-authors.html

    Love ya!

  15. Devon Ashley says:

    Laughing… I’ve had my fair share of nasty remarks about the sexual content I put in Falling In Between, but seriously, who the fuck cares? 88% of people liked or loved it. I just don’t understand when authors get a pencil up their ass cause a few people didn’t like their work, then feel it necessary to call them out on it and question their right to critique it. Maybe it’s that whole ‘any publicity is good publicity’ thing. Seriously, if you can’t handle someone not liking your book, don’t publish. And don’t think for one second you can control who the books get passed to later. Hell, I’ve donated lots of the books given to me by Indies to my public library. Lots of underprivileged readers are gonna get at it now!

    • THANK YOU! Seriously, it’s awesome to know that SOME authors still have the sense they were born with.

      It’s the nature of the beast, it’s why other reviewers attack ME on Amazon bc I have a too high percentage for giving “good reviews”… They think by tearing me down it makes me look less reputable. And in my opinion it just makes them look stupid! Lol

  16. See that is the problem that I have been trying to over come. I have yet to request review books for that reason. I hate to give negative reviews but I will. I just don’t always post them on my blog. I will more than likely post it on my goodreads because I can keep it short and to the point. I am also a very positive reviewer but that is because I almost always read books that I like. I hate the fact that an author or a reviewer would bash each other. I will not support bloggers or authors that do that. It just makes me so upset to see these thing out there and it saddens me that we can not just respect each others opinions. We are not reviewing the person but the work. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but is should be said with class. That is not what this community is all about. So grow up and act like an adult instead of an uneducated fool. I feel that it goes for both sides of this dicussion.

  17. Omg, you rock!!! Love this post so much. And I agree with everything you said. Personally I do give negative reviews but I do it without bashing and I never attack an author. That website you mention makes me cringe. Don’t they have better things to do. I don’t agree with some really awful reviews but its their honest feelings. And I have seen some authors and publishers being really nasty to bloggers for liking a book. It makes me.depressed. I tend not to involve myself in the drama even if it get turned onto me. I take the high ground and ignore. Although behind the laptop screen I may be cursing lol.

    People just need to get over themselves and grow up!

    Love your blog btw :)

  18. Lizzy says:

    Why can’t we all just hold hands and sing together?! I’ve missed quite a lot of this drama because I took almost a year off from blogging but it seems like one of those things where both sides were making it worse and now everyone is so sensitive to it that even a well-written and respectful review describing why the book didn’t work gets attacked.

    Everyone should just hug it out

  19. OMG she called her a douche? Wow. Harsh. Horrible. That author should be ashamed.
    But the one that bothers me most is the last one.
    Disgusting behavior.
    I don’t want to read her now either.

  20. Suzanne Cox says:

    Ha!! BB you rock the house!!! LOL. So how many times did you drop the F bomb before 7am writing this!!! With writing comes reviews and as an author you just have to know it’s part of it and not everyone is going to like your stuff. Look at it and try to see if there is something in the review that can help you improve your work. There’s always room for improvement. So did someone really call another person a douche??? Really??? Who uses that word? Douche??? You know you’re really not supposed to douche anyway cause it’s bad for the normal flora of you va…. but I digress. Anyway. Cool post. Just be sweet now…ya’ll!!!

  21. It is really sad how the world of blogging has changed. When I first started which was almost 10 months ago, it wasn’t like this. Now I feel like every day or at least once a week there is some other drama is going on. It is ridiculous! Thank you for your post, and I love how you speak your mind!! I really cannot believe Andrea was attacked over that review, and I agree she really is so super sweet!! Again AWESOME post, you rock!!

    • I’ve been blogging and on message forums for about 12 years and I can confirm the hate trolling has always been there, it just emerges different places. A site as big as Goodreads it was bound to happen.

  22. *begins the slow clap* <=== Damn, I'm doing that a LOT these days.

    I just want the drama to stop so bad. It's quickly becoming not so fun anymore and that's a shame. I love books and writing reviews. We shouldn't suddenly become scared for our personal safety over a book review, or the way we shelve a book of GoodReads or the way we reply to a fucking troll on our OWN REVIEW.

    New Follower. Don't stop being awesome.

  23. Tina says:

    LOL- you crack me up…. because Ill tell you I feel the same way. When I read that Stop the GR Bullies, do you know what it accomplished? Me going and checking out Cuddlebuggery and becoming a new follower and me wanting to give that site the middle finger.

    I read that authors post too just now and seriously just another one talking about things out of her control, perhaps thats the real issue, these authors who are in an up roar feel like their words and work have been taken out of their hands and their own insecurity and resentment are taking over the logic in their brain. The truth is when you put your words out there, in a book, in a movie, in a song, in a review, you open yourself up for other peoples opinions. If you cant handle it maybe you shouldn’t put yourself out there in the first place. And I guess that applies to all of us. If an author calls you a douche, yeah it was stupid and mean, and its going to piss all us other bloggers off……but it comes with the territory……..a bad review will equal trolls. Maybe as bloggers we can look at this as a good thing, that authors and publishers are noticing us and are realizing what a huge impact the blogging world really does have.

    • Tina says:

      Just to be clear the site I want to give the middle finger to was the Stop the Gr Bullies site….!!

      • “The truth is when you put your words out there, in a book, in a movie, in a song, in a review, you open yourself up for other peoples opinions. If you cant handle it maybe you shouldn’t put yourself out there in the first place.”

        PERFECTLY said chick! Seriously!

        And isnt Cuddlebuggery SUPER fabulous?! I just love them!

  24. Amy J says:

    I just did a post on something similar. An author actually told a friend of mine how to rate her reviews and how it should be done. The author even brought in her friends to harass this blogger friend of mine and bully her. I was fed up as well. I couldn’t stand back and not post something about it. Usually I won’t post anything on the blog, but when authors tell us how to rate a book and tell us guidelines with bullies jumping in as well — too much!

  25. OMG! Your post is just wow!

  26. The definition of bullying seems to have stretched to new meanings, as I wouldn’t consider difference of opinion on a book to be bullying. I read the review that sparked all of this, and several other high-octane gif-happy Goodreads reviews that, while scathing at times, do not personally attack an author. More or less it’s frustration that a heavily hyped book does not live up to expectations, is full of character tropes and maybe lacks a believable framework. I have not personally seen those posts attack the author or their personal life, so to see a website go up that does just that, it’s irony in full form. The “bullied” are now the bullies.

    I hope you don’t end up on the receiving end of the new bullies’ attacks. Giving them the finger might be just the fuel they’re looking for to aid in the argument of Us v. Them. That entire mentality is what we need to get away from. This is BOOKS people. It’s not life or death. I love books and enjoy reading. Even a book I personally reviewed negatively — Outlander, a beloved book by many — I enjoy discussing with people to find out why they liked a book that made me tick. It’s sad that people aren’t able to discuss books, or receive criticism, or IGNORE opposing opinions. Instigating a personal battle over the dislike of a book cannot be blamed on anyone but one’s own self. We need to be the better person.

    I am choosing not to click on their link to engage in more hate. It’s not the way to handle it.

  27. Heidi says:

    Great topic! Yes, it sucks that the internet has become such a vile place. That site is pathetic they have no business posting stuff like that in the name of preventing bullying when they are engaging in bullying themselves. Not to mention the anonimity! Just sickening! Hey I agree with you and try to keep my reviews professional. I post the good and bad in all my reviews and try and keep it classy. While I personally don’t agree with the more venomous types of reviews out there, everyone has a right to their own opinion and if these reviewers are willing to take the heat fine! Too bad like everything, all the drama and attention always focuses on the negative instead of all the positive people out there. Thanks for the rant!

  28. All I can do it laugh. Really loudly. My hubby said DAMN… someone pissed in her cheerio’s ;-)
    LOVE IT!
    & love you.
    I do bad reviews, which are so hard to write. BUT, I never NEVER bash an author. THAT IS WRONG.
    And the bullying group? haha. How fucking lame. L.A.M.E

    <3

  29. YAY for Part 2!!!

    I love it – just as much as I loved the first, quick points that you hit straight on:

    1. I love your mention about what happened to Andrea, and you’re so right – she was one of the bloggers I mentioned that has maintained my faith in the open community. Always nice, super sweet and consistently professional. When I saw the douche-baggary (and yes I’m going to describe it as so) of the Author’s behavior I did jump in that one and show support for her. She didn’t deserve it. End of the day? Andrea comes out on top and the Author pretty much bashed herself.

    2. This shit of the GR Bullie site if out-of-freaking-control! I went there – and what did I do? Fell in love with Cuddlebuggery, so GREAT JOB StGRB you have been successful in showing that you are nothing but a group of mindless morons and you should probably take that site down before your employers discover the extent of your stupidity.

    THANK YOU AGAIN! You are pretty much a fantastic human being and I’m so glad you have shined the light on this crap!

  30. This post makes me so happy! Really, so happy. You have said all of the things that I have wanted to say.

  31. My question to the GRbully thing is… When does YOUR behavior come into question? When do you start emulating the bullies you report to hate? You seem to be trying to out bully the bully. Doesn’t work.

    Spot on about reviewers conduct.

    As far as Elizabeth Fama’s position, I actually understand that one. She doesn’t want her subpar work (ARC, Galley) out there for someone to read. Honestly I get that. I’m guessing after a few she will stop worrying so much and chill. It’s her first big work and she wants it as perfect as possible. It’s not that she wants to deny the underprivileged. Usually authors like that donate quite a few books to libraries. I believe she was just answering excuses given to her. Bad excuses as to why people wanted to pass ARCs to non-reviewers. She isn’t the only one with this stance. I could be wrong, but that is how I read her post. Even authors get foot in mouth syndrome.

    • See I was totally okay with what she was saying until she got all high handed about people who have NOTHING.

      Has SHE ever had NOTHING? I’ll bet not. Seriously, I don’t care how many times my husband says, “I don’t think she meant it QUITE like you’re taking it babe.” …

      The only way that woma could POSSIBLY redeem herself in my eyes is to donate EVERY SINGLE CENT of profit that her book brings in to a charity for UNDERPRIVILEGED children.

      • I totally get where you are coming from. I would want those things to go to the underprivileged kids too. However, this is why I thought she was responding to a lame excuse as to why people distributed ARCs…

        The underprivileged kids I know of don’t have personal libraries. Why? Because they have to pack light. They don’t always have a home. They aren’t always in the same place. They get passed back and forth from home to foster care. Their main concern is a safe place and something to eat. I was friends with a lot of those kids growing up, so yea… I thought someone was giving her a lame excuse to give her ARCs to friends. These kids did read, but they all went to libraries and checked them out there or at the bookmobile.

        And despite all that, I still say I could be totally wrong and giving her too much credit. I just wanted to clear up my POV on the situation. ;) <3

  32. Thanks for this, Ashley. I could not agree with you more. Another one of my friends was profiled on that site this morning. I try not to give them a second of my attention but it’s hard, especially when it’s so personal for me. But I think for now I am going to TRY and step away from the drama as much as possible and read. Just READ. And review. And not worry about what these batshit crazy nutty squirrels have to say. I might have to get involved again because I will never turn my back on a friend in need. But there’s really nothing at this point that i can do. I just need to have positive people in my life. We are all in this together and I want to thank you for standing up for what you believe in.

  33. ashley says:

    Opinions are like assholes.,everyones got one. I like to read peoples reviews but normally I skim over them if I don’t agree. Read it for your self. People really have nothing better to do it seems to me. But that’s just me. Love your site!

  34. I don’t give ‘bad’ reviews. I have given a few that listed some things that I didn’t like or mentioned things that I know others don’t like – mini warnings, like ‘if you don’t like love triangles, skip this one,’ but nothing scathing. I just can’t do it. Call me a wimp, but that’s just my personality. If I really and truly don’t like a book, I will rate it the best I can on GRs and move on. My theory is, if you don’t have anything nice to say, say nothing at all. Nothing drives me crazier than seeing a bashing review that calls out every little thing about a book that the person didn’t like…. I take that back, the only thing that irritates me more is seeing the same person bash books 1, 2, 3, etc in the same series. Honestly, if you hated the first book, why continue. We heard you the first time. As a rule though, the book blogging community in general is a group whose soul purpose is to promote, recommend and gush over authors that they love. Be it indie authors or main stream, I love having the opportunity to let people know about all the great books that are out there. Sharing the love is part of the fun. It just makes me sad when something like this happens and people feel the need to take sides. There should be no ‘sides.’ The author/blogger/reader relationship should be symbiotic. When any of the players forget that the results are tragic.
    Thanks for ‘telling it like it is’ Ashley.

  35. My mama always told me, “Darlin’ you can’t please everyone.” And, it’s true. When I decided to self-publish, I knew I had to prepare myself for varying opinions. In a way, the whole agent-seeking process kind of readies you for the journey. The agents I interacted with were wonderful and very supportive…I just always came up a little short. But, I never cried or got angry. For me, the fact that they wanted to read it at all made my day. I mean, they gave my story a chance, and that’s what you and other book reviewers do–you give us a chance. I guess what I’m trying to say is this: If someone hates your work, there’s nothing you can do about it. Heck, there are people who hate what most of the world loves. It’s just the way it is. Would it hurt? Yes, absolutely, mainly because, for me, my characters are like family–I love them like a mama bear loves her cubs. A book is like an author’s child, really. It’s their heart and soul. Still, I have to believe that for every person who hates it, there just might be a few who actually like or love it. And, at the end of the day, isn’t that what matters?

    I love how you are a positive reviewer–please never change who you are.

  36. Molli says:

    I think the one thing that we DO have as reviewers is our integrity, and that said, ALL my reviews are honest. If I just flat out HATED a book, and could find NOTHING redeeming about it, I might choose not to review it on the blog. That said if a review goes up on my blog, I try to always intelligently discuss why I didn’t like this or that about the book but I ALWAYS find something positive to say. If an author doesn’t want honest reviews, then IMHO they aren’t ready to be a writer. Writing is HARD WORK. It means giving pieces of your soul over to your WIP. So yes, negative reviews – or even ones that aren’t glowing – ARE going to hurt like hell. I’ve not been there, but I can imagine. It’d be like someone telling me (were I a mom) that my baby was ugly. BUT. It’s ALL in how bloggers AND authors behave. Be classy – it’s THAT SIMPLE. If you ask for a review, be prepared to accept whatever that blogger says. And if you ACCEPT a review request, be honest, not trashy. Basically, just treat others how YOU would want to be treated if it were YOUR book up for review.

    People are so bad to over-complicate things. This whole blogging thing is REALLY simple and supposed to be fun!

    That said…I went and read that whole post from Fama. I’m now taking her book OFF of my TBR on Goodreads, and I won’t read it or support her in any way. I cannot abide by her attitude.

    Molli | Once Upon a Prologue

    • Agreed…

      Honestly I think Fama killed her career with her little “Kill My ARC” post… Seriously. It’s simple… THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK.

      My daddy told me that EVERYDAY for years. I’m usually QUIET now. Lol

      One thing though… If someone tells a mom her kid is ugly, you can be fairly certain they’re going to get hit in the eye. Lol

  37. C.J Duggan says:

    Wow! I must live under a rock. No I think it’s more of a writing cave, although it was brought to my attention about the Stop GR Bullies saga and I was gob smacked (Yeah I totally just said gob smacked) but I was also really confused. I couldn’t believe so much time and energy went into naming and shaming people. Having a go at bullies by in return…bullying?? Kind of defeats the purpose. Don’t get me wrong bullying is definitely not on, but people will only be able to bully if you give them an audience. I know as a writer I try not to get caught up in all the political aspect of published v’s Indie, or any of the keyboard warriors out there. I understand when you put anything out there you’re going to need to have a pretty thick skin. It’s hard enough to deal with your own creative demons let alone other people’s negative attitudes. Plus there is a big difference between a constructive review on a book and personally attacking an author, I sometimes cringe at some reviews who have stepped over a line and are just down right insulting. At the end of the day will that person gain my following? Nope! Will I instead follow and laugh at a Book loving, zombie freak, stiletto wearing, twitter whore, coffee addicted Brunette with a purse fetish?? ABSOLUTELY! I think these rants of yours Ashley are SO valuable to the reading/writing community because it cuts through all the BS and hopefully has some people thinking about how they go about their business on line. It most certianly educates and amuses me :) O.K back to the writing cave! (Where it is safe and warm with no bullies and lots of chocolate) xx

  38. Valerie says:

    You go girl! I LOVE your face.

    Valerie

  39. Emily says:

    First, I just have to say that I love your blog.

    I’m pretty new to the book blogging world and it seems I picked the worst time to get into it, lol. I can’t really comprehend the ego it would take to deny a bookless child ONE book, but okay. I can honestly say that is the most horrifying thing I’ve read since January.

    I personally prefer finished, polished copies to ARCs, but really–she would deny a child a book? My mind is kind of blown.

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  41. candace says:

    It seems like this whole bashing thing just cant go away. Don’t authors learn from other authors? Hold your tongue! I really don’t keep up with the news too much but when I hear stuff I’m just SHOCKED at the stuff that comes out! I don’t know, but I guess I have been lucky so far on not getting picked on. But I try to be gentle if I have negative things to say and NEVER bash an author. I rarely EVER have under 3 star reviews just cause those are DNF’s and I don’t review them. Great post Ashley! I hope people start thinking before speaking.

  42. The Muggle says:

    Fantastic post! The problem is what do we do now? How do I ensure this doesn’t happen to me? I refuse to write a review that is not my honest opinion. So what is left?

    I posted about this yesterday, where I updated my review policy to reflect all this drama:
    http://amugglesmagicalbookblog.co.za/wp/?p=4383

  43. Stephanie D. says:

    Just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse. What the??? I wish someone would out these anti-bully bullies. What they’re doing has got to be breaking some cyberstalking, cyberharassment laws. Are there any lawyers in the house????

  44. I depend on HONEST reviews to help me choose the books I read. The reasoning behind why it wasn’t such a great read determines whether I’ll pick it up or not. If it’s a less than great plot or it’s choppy, I probably won’t read it. If the reviewer just couldn’t get into the story or there is just some bad grammar, I may pick it up because everyone’s opinions differ and I can deal with a little bad editing.

  45. Becky P. says:

    Completely agree with everything you said. Couldn’t have put it better myself. I, personally, haven’t experienced this author bullying, but I have heard about it a lot and I am completely shocked!! I try so hard to be a professional when writing a review, especially when I talk about the things I didn’t like and I try really hard to be professional when emailing the authors back and forth. It just baffles me that there are some authors out there not appreciating the professionalism that us bloggers try to show when talking to them and are being completely unprofessional back.

    So one person thought your book wasn’t the best. You are telling me they have never read a book they disliked? Get over it. Unreal, seriously unreal.

  46. I can only echo everyone else’s sentiments in calling this post EPICALLY EPIC TO THE EPIC DEGREE OF EPICNOSITY!!! You are, forever and always, the badass zombie queen. I hate, hate, HATE to see authors behaving badly because it reflects so poorly on the rest of us but, more importantly, because it tends to alienate awesome bloggers, reviewers and just straight-up readers. The worst thing that can happen in this new era of “the rise of indie authors” is for the book writing and book blogging world to enter into this ugly “us versus them” atmosphere implied by the posts/sites you mention. It should be such a good time for all of us, authors, readers, reviewers, bloggers, and this stuff just sends us all down the wrong path. Thanks for pointing it out with such ferocity and humor, AS ALWAYS! #longlivethezombiequeen

    • Hehe…well luckily for everyone what I’m lacking everywhere else, I can definitely make up for it with ferocity, humor and general all round enthusiasm!!

      #TeamRustyFischer

  47. Sharmin says:

    I try to be as respectful as I can of the books when I do negative reviews. And I never bash an author. Although if I am doing something wrong than I would like someone to call me out on it. And I obviously agree with you. When an author sends books in exchange for an honest review, vulnerability comes with the territory–and the chance of someone not liking their book. Thanks for YOUR honesty! :)

    -S.

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  49. Melissa Andrea says:

    I FREAKIN LOVE your blog!! I just found it & I’ve gone through and read some of your posts & your awesome!! Just had to tell you :) )

  50. Erin says:

    After taking over a year off from blogging Im recently returning and have been checking out fellow blogs a lot more lately. Actually because of this – through a Goodreads obsession – is why Ive returned to blogging in the first place.

    First I noticed this drama thing with friends on Goodreads all over the place and thought it was getting blown out of proportion. Sure, some of it was valid but then it was almost like a witch hunt to find things to focus on. Now I see it more on blogs also.

    I really am not seeing the big deal or else I miss most of it. An active blogger and friend on facebook, who is also a friend on Goodreads, posted the other day that they are checking out an alternate to GR now because of all the drama. I replied that I really haven’t personally noticed it among my friends, and she just said I’m lucky and she’s been deleting people.

    To me Goodreads is still a wonderful site for book lovers and we readers should not let this be ruined; likewise, I’m sure most of the authors on there are not involved in this drama either.

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